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AN— i missed the internal rhyme, but yes, it's there. sleeping and sleeping and silken. it's the only proper noun there, and it's easy to think that it's got some weight
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AN— maybe his “average reader” and your “lonely scene” could put us on a slant as we decide what williams's “my household” is all about, what his mission in poetry involves, what his methods open up for us
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DE— This danse is no solo. The whole household participates. Even sleep is participation.
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DE— Getting a lot from this thread. What Kathleen means to me so far is that she's defining “household” as opposed to “family” which would be WCW, Flossie, the kids. That makes for totally different portraiture. It also makes the last lines quite resonant, seems to me the hour of “the happy genius” was only possible after everything's set up, everything's settled down, they're asleep, food will be served if they wake up, a man is free to dance as he wishes in his little yellow bubble as long as these conditions are preserved.
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AN— maybe putting the baby and kathleen together means he's putting her in its care?
Tinadtad ang mga ideya at isinahog ang kambal-dila para sa salusalong ito. Sana may sustansya. Masimot man o hindi, tanggapin ang aking pasasalamat sa iyong pagtikim.
Ago 8, 2015
A “Danse Russe” Thread, 2
Mga etiketa:
kapitan basa,
modpo,
williams
Note on 106
Hi. Providing as asked, but referring to the two 30-student classes the last time I taught this. Distributed the Mayer list and asked them to bring their own dictionaries and a sonnet (four copies). Shared what I knew of the sonnet, then segued to an arc involving Dickinson's “Tell all the truth but tell it slant —” and Stevens's “Gray Room” and Waldrop's “Shorter American Memory of the Declaration of Independence,” all as prep for our sonnet-games.
Before tinkering with the sonnet though, I thought we could test-run the list and these were the exercises chosen:
* Write minimally: one line or sentence per day
* Write five short expressions of the most adamant anger; make a work out of them.
* Write a work gazing into a mirror without using the pronoun I.
After we had gone through the sonnet and the arc of mini-discussions, we used the following exercises on the sonnets we brought to the basement:
* Take a traditional text like the pledge of allegiance to the flag. For every noun, replace it with one that is seventh or ninth down from the original one in the dictionary. For instance, the word “honesty” would be replaced by “honey dew melon.” Investigate what happens; different dictionaries will produce different results.
* Systematically eliminate the use of certain kinds of words or phrases from a piece of writing: eliminate all adjectives from a poem of your own, or take out all words beginning with 's' in Shakespeare's sonnets.
* Systematically derange the language: write a work consisting only of prepositional phrases, or, add a gerund to every line of an already existing work.
Then I had them choose one more experiment from the list so they could work with that. We gathered reflections after this, shared our work, our experiences during the games. Some of that reflection was directed to (what I felt was) a provocative Mayer prescription: “Experiment with every traditional form, so as to know it.”
Before tinkering with the sonnet though, I thought we could test-run the list and these were the exercises chosen:
* Write minimally: one line or sentence per day
* Write five short expressions of the most adamant anger; make a work out of them.
* Write a work gazing into a mirror without using the pronoun I.
After we had gone through the sonnet and the arc of mini-discussions, we used the following exercises on the sonnets we brought to the basement:
* Take a traditional text like the pledge of allegiance to the flag. For every noun, replace it with one that is seventh or ninth down from the original one in the dictionary. For instance, the word “honesty” would be replaced by “honey dew melon.” Investigate what happens; different dictionaries will produce different results.
* Systematically eliminate the use of certain kinds of words or phrases from a piece of writing: eliminate all adjectives from a poem of your own, or take out all words beginning with 's' in Shakespeare's sonnets.
* Systematically derange the language: write a work consisting only of prepositional phrases, or, add a gerund to every line of an already existing work.
Then I had them choose one more experiment from the list so they could work with that. We gathered reflections after this, shared our work, our experiences during the games. Some of that reflection was directed to (what I felt was) a provocative Mayer prescription: “Experiment with every traditional form, so as to know it.”
Mga etiketa:
days,
dickinson,
formaldehyde majors,
loss and find,
lumang liham,
mayer,
modpo,
stevens,
waldrop
Ago 6, 2015
Huwag Idulog sa Akin ang Buong Katotohanan
ni Olav Hauge
aking salin
Huwag idulog sa akin ang buong katotohanan.
Huwag idulot sa akin ang dagat kung ako’y nauuhaw,
ni ang langit, sa paghingi ko ng liwanag;
ngunit magbitbit ng pahiwatig, kaunting hamog, isang katiting,
gaya ng mga ibong ilang patak lamang ang taglay mula sa tubig,
at ng hangin, iisang butil ng asin.
aking salin
Huwag idulog sa akin ang buong katotohanan.
Huwag idulot sa akin ang dagat kung ako’y nauuhaw,
ni ang langit, sa paghingi ko ng liwanag;
ngunit magbitbit ng pahiwatig, kaunting hamog, isang katiting,
gaya ng mga ibong ilang patak lamang ang taglay mula sa tubig,
at ng hangin, iisang butil ng asin.
Ago 4, 2015
Madaling sabi
Pagbigyan sana kung uulitin ko lamang sa pagkakataong ito ang ilang mga nasabi na tungkol sa hulma ng “matulaing sanaysay” (“bakit hindi na lang tumula kung tutula, magsanaysay kung magsasanaysay?”). Patawarin ang ganitong paraan ng pagpapahiwatig.
Ani San Benito, “Walang bubulong-bulong, walang magsasalita—tinig lamang ng mambabasa ang maririnig doon.”
Ani San Benito, “Walang bubulong-bulong, walang magsasalita—tinig lamang ng mambabasa ang maririnig doon.”
Mga etiketa:
loss and find,
salinangan,
san benito,
veers
Ago 2, 2015
Monochrome Borealis
of varying nationalities,
asking gap between in bridging – Kabunyan
shot by musicians
Working with the Melody (Outer
looks into stems
formed in our
hope) piece, somehow it ended
piece any concrete
you will receive
asking gap between in bridging – Kabunyan
shot by musicians
Working with the Melody (Outer
looks into stems
formed in our
hope) piece, somehow it ended
piece any concrete
you will receive
Mga etiketa:
loss and find,
nob-dis,
veers
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